Here we go, the first episode of “The Second Law,” wherein our intrepid hosts get a “feel” for each other, introducing themselves and discussing, among other things, their deconversion experiences.
If you like it, give your thanks to hosts Emma and Joe (Moggie and Gliblord from the forums). If you don’t like it (hey ptah, ‘sup), blame Leighton.
50 Responses to “Second Law #1: Introlent”
Man, why’s everyone gotta hate on ptah? He’s a nice character once you get to know him.
If you know what I mean.
That opening was genius…
assless….chaps……did Kim van Gundy edit this episode?
Nice show guys. I like how, over and over again, Australia completely confounds the conventions of christianity. Perhaps you should do an episode focussing just on ways Australia does that.
Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray the Lord my soul to KEEP;
if I die before I wake,
I pray the Lord my soul to take.
You’ve never listened to Metallica? And Paleo-Orthodoxy makes perfect sense because paleo means ‘old’. Good first episode.
@Meringue And how exactly can I get “to know” ptah?
Yeah, I said keep….and I know paleo means old, but there’s old and old. I have a paleo-car, might get a nouveau one. I was horrified when I listened back to this and realised all the things I wanted to change! Traps for young players.
Speaking of corrections, I told Chuck the title was “Introlent”. Fail.
I was wondering what “Introlection” meant.
It means I’m way too tired (read: “lazy”) to be doing even what little I had to do.
No worries, I was too lazy to look up the patriarchates in Rome (derp) and Alexandria. Now excuse me while go into my time machine and change the locations of the ancient holy sees.
Yeah, not bad. This was decent compared to some of the other atheist podcasts they have out there, which are so boring it makes me want to run into a wall. Also, nice going on explaining some of these Catholic traditions, it was pretty interesting.
Emma, I didn’t notice the ‘nasally’ part of your accent until you mentioned it. Then I imagined hearing Fran Drescher with an Australian accent and… all of a sudden, it clicked! lol!
Wow, I wasn’t expecting another cast for at least a month. You guys keep on fuckin’. I’m going to listen to this in the shower. You can… figure out the rest.
Does this mean there will finally be a discussion on Julian Jayne’s book?
Not bad for the first attempt, you actually made me laugh a few times.
Whelve, Julian is on the list 🙂
at first i was really excited about this…because i thought the picture was a piece of toast…but i was baffled by the bone. then i was only mildly excited figuring out that it’s plugged in meat. *sigh* someday…toast will have the glory it deserves…
That’s meat? You really can’t explain that. It’s toast, clearly. I’m nailing my 96 complaints on the door of this apostate podcast and number one is, that is obviously a drawing of toast on a stick. The plug goes to the toaster hidden behind the toast. How can the toaster be smaller than the toast, you say? That’s one of the exquisite mysteries of the faith that proves the rule. Convert to or be condemned to eternal burnt toast hell.
If your toast is that red then you may need to go easy on the jam guyz.
I liked it because it was plugged in meat shaped like toast. Win win.
Considering the accents, this was pretty good.
Exactly what cut of meat is that?
It is a cute of meat.
Better than a Ken Ham-Bone.
It is Tuesday…that is all I have to say!
I’ll pass on a critical review because it was your first podcast. Wasn’t feeling it.
Hate to be the bad guy, but this is really more like all the other atheist podcasts out there than the genius that is Irreligiosophospawhatver. Any chance of putting it on a separate feed so I don’t have to unsubscribe and get the regular podcast manually? My hard drive space is limited and I’m even lazier than Leighton.
Thanks! =)
OK, it’s bugging me. The opening music sounds familiar, but I can’t place it. It sounds like it’s from an Elder Scrolls game… am I right?
I partially agree with Herb, but I will comment.
My thoughts:
This show is a plot by Leighton to replace the Hindu episode as the worst abomination in podcasting.
Joe was brought on by Chuck to make Chuck’s grating voice sound smooth and pleasant by comparison (it worked).
Dear Chuck & Leighton,
I promise to be more patient and to limit my complaining from now until the end of time, and to buy you guys a plethora of beers, if you please put an end to this Second Law venture. How about you guys just upload a link to the Wigglian way podacst instead of subjecting us to this “show.” Seriously, the only way the second law could get worse is by taking Moggie off and leaving us with only Gliblord.
Sincerely,
Discord.agent
Don’t be so negative, it can always get worse. And will.
@Erik It’s from an indie game called Braid.
@Gliblord Right! Just couldn’t place it. I should have got that because I love Braid, but I also love the Bethesda games and the orchestral scores were all running together in my head.
@Discord.agent: You quite literally hit every sarcastic remark that went through my mind. Right down to the Wigglian Way. Thanks for being a bigger asshole than I am, and posting your/my thoughts.
Not bad. Marginally better than much of the crap out there. But listen, dumbass, don’t fucking say “begs the question,” when you mean “raises the question.” The Logical Fallacy Police will, and should, be all over your ass. In fact, don’t ever say, “Begs the question.”
Yeah, I actually knew about the distinction beforehand, I just keep forgetting not to say “begs the question” in actual conversation. Dumb, I know.
I could only get 20 minutes into it before turning it off. Sorry, but it was quite bad. Irrelevance is fine as long as it contains substance. If I wanted irrelevance for its own sake, I’d be listening to a comedy podcast.
Make podcasts as often or as sparsely as you want. Please don’t feel like you need to create filler episodes for the impatient.
@Discord.agent: XD try to give them a handful of episodes before you pass final judgment. Making a podcast is NOT easy. I know from experience.
I say if they do, like, five and it doesn’t get better, THEN, complaints, and finally if you don’t like stuff you can always not listen. I mean, hell, I have really heard many people do way worse starting off a podcast, this was not bad for a start off. Give them time. At least they don’t sound as dry and uptight as Humanist Network News and (most of) Secular Nation Podcasts. And their supposed to be ‘professional.’
Good job guys… I like the meat-thingy: “You wouldn’t plug in a piece of meat, would you?!?!”
@Fifth_Horsemen: You’re right, it wasn’t a bad start. It was a horrendous start. I’m willing to give it one more try, but Joe has the voice for mime.
I found the podcast to be very interesting, if only for the differences and similarities between the catholic and the orthodox doctrines and practices and customs. Yes, the microphones need to be sorted, but that’s not something that would stop me from listening and keep in mind the two hosts were on different continents for crying out loud.
I fear we have way too many whiny children here.
I’ll have to do some research but I’m pretty sure they just made podcasting history by being the first to outsource their own podcast.
Just like Mr. Horse says, “No sir, I don’t like it.”
Absolutely horrible! After the first unfunny “Emma saves our bacon” show I prayed that would be the last of her. I guarantee even Australians can’t stand her accent. I cannot believe these two morons talked for the whole hour. What a stupid idea Leighton! I agree with the other guy who wants to unsubscribe.
it’s no wonder chuck and leighton are wanting to cut back on the podcast…their fans are massive cunts.
Really enjoyed the show! Can’t wait for part 2.
bernard: “it’s no wonder chuck and leighton are wanting to cut back on the podcast…their fans are massive cunts.”
(was) something in greece: “I fear we have way too many whiny children here.”
Agreed and agreed.
One thing that has always bothered me a little on the blog but oddly not so much the forum is how people tend to mean for meanness sake. I understand making cutting, sarcastic and snide remarks as a way to backhandedly praise someone or something as it is my main mode of communication IRL, but sometimes, OK fine, often, it feels like people here go over the edge and just let their ugly hang out for the world to see. Fucking exhibitionists.
An “I don’t like it” or “I thought it sucked rotten donkey balls” is fine, but while you’re not liking it why not offer some constructive criticism? There are podcasts out there I won’t listen to because I don’t like the host’s voice, sure. There are a shit ton of podcasts I don’t listen to because I find them painfully boring and unfunny (see: American Freethought). The thing is, I tried them, didn’t like them and never listened to them again.
Which is what you should do if you didn’t like The Second Law.
How long does it take you to delete a file from your iTunes feed? Or not click the link to listen?
@Whelve: Fuck you.
I hated the whole idea of having a pre-show and was expecting to hate the podcast … I didn’t! I can’t say it was as good as Irreligiosophy but it was still at least 10X better than Reasonable Doubts.
Whelve: I agree that the fans have a problem with being mean. That’s probably because they find Irreligiosophy funny but have no idea of why.
Unfortunately, this goes double for the humor. They think the reason C&L are funny is because the swear a lot and say mean things about people. They listen to the podcast and think that what Chuck and Leighton do is to say “fuck” and crack jokes about child slaves and racist misogyny.
In short, Irreligiosophy fans don’t get it.
You can’t just be rude and offensive, you also have to be clever and original. Which none of the fans are. Even C&L only are some of the time, although often enough to keep it interesting.
So in closing; I agree with Bernard that Irreligiosophy fans are fucking cunts. I’d like to add that they also are tedious and pathetic. And that is precisely why it is such a bad idea to let them make a podcast.
@ Herb: Back at ya, sunshine!
Best Episode Ever!
Big pet peeve of mine- you were not “born catholic” you were born into a family that held catholic beliefs. Seems trivial but people are just born as a human animal on Earth, they have to be indoctrinated into some religious sect before you can refer to them as a cult member.
Joe: Please stop using “beg the question” unless you agree to use it right. You can say “raise the question”.
I thought the podcast was fine. I’ve listened to way worse podcasts. Just keep going and it’ll get better. Maybe have a little more structure next time. And as for Emma’s annoying accent, well, as a person from a completely different corner of the English-speaking world with a completely different, but equally annoying accent, get the fuck over it.